Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. Thank you for information. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. I would reach out to them as a resource, they'll probably be ablee to provide some insight into the process, even if they worked with an S55 rather than a B58. I was thinking if I purchased a donor car off copart like a 440 with a twisted frame or something, drop the front and rear subframes with the motor and everything, swap over the fuel tank and lines. Laverne: '18 F80 Base 6MT | Paul's E85 | Stock Turbos | Kies Hub | FBOs | 7sec 60-130 | 11.7@124 (Sold in Feb). G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations; F82Model Year: 2014 - 2020. N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. Not when 335is are as cheap as they are. TF-Works BMW E30 K-Swap Kit - Phase 1. May have been posted elsewhere, but is the actual limit of the stock automatic transmission on the 340i? n52 also had this. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. Where else to find out about the problems with such a replacement for X-drive. I think better off just upgrading to M2 Comp but still cool to see. Regular price $140 View. Great to know about the Pure transmissions. $1,601.00. I don't know what the point would be to swab a b58 and use a standalone when going to an m54b30 turbo with standalone should be a little easier. Posts. 5. Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? My question are. which one will u pick to swap in it? E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. We uploaded the update 10 minutes ago! I want to know how I can fit the G80 grilles to my F80. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. The stage 1 kit comes in at $1,199 and is able to support roughly 550whp. Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! The B58M30 01 is a Bavarian motor that found its way under the hood of the Mk V Supra as part of the joint-venture that saw the two carmakers developing the new-generation sportscars together, with. Did you check the weight difference between the 50 and 70? Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! On top of that because it's a closed deck the cylinder walls aremy as well cooled as the N54 and that will only expedite the failure. Rep. 19. I wouldnt. Different transmission and differential. the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. I'd entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine) 1 When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. M5. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. G22Model Year: 2020 + . Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. Without a doubt. So I was curious on how hard it would be to put a B58 into my E92 at some point. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Former Technician // E90 335D // G20 330i, BMW Lvl 1 Master Technician, HV Specialist, Gen 5 Certified. You must log in or register to reply here. I had the hardtop coupe version of that car (e92). shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. I replaced it with an M3 (e90). Just buy a 335? Jul 30, 2022. Rep. 296. Or a Supra if automatic is your thing. So the swap itself isn't really worth it in your opinion? :). B58 turbo swap? Automotive flea market with over 100 indoor vendor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces and car corral. Until tuning gets WAY further down the line, no one is going to be making big power on these motors without. I'd love to hear the nitty gritty details about getting ECU to play nice. I bought the 4 cylinder because it is my daily driver and dont want to spend a ton on gasoline but it just lacks torque. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. This makes no sense, but I love it. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. I've been on real-oem seeing what part numbers are the same between the 435 and the 440, and a lot of the modules match up, even things like front and rear subframes match and things like that.. recently blew up my stock HP50 transmission in my 340i. That's wild! The guy's N55 let go on track, so decided to swap a B58 into it. It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. Vader Solution . Shipping: bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. 08-12-2021, 12:16 PM. M4. Question was mostly for my curiosity to determine if it's something I'd want to do down the line maybe. Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. You'd need some aftermarket mods as well. Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? Expecting to get a typical response to this question like "Just buy a 335i" but I digress. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. We also have tons of content about N55 upgrades such as N55 fueling mods, turbo upgrades, and so much more! FIRST b58 swapped e36 470HP 700+NM DRIFT 34,728 views Sep 22, 2021 857 Dislike Share Save Ostap Demkiv 256 subscribers B58B30A 2018 M140i engine 403bhp 700Nm 100RON tune @afterfix SCS Delta GDI6. B58 done right is a much better power-plant. so i want to do an engine swap and get the b58 on my 428i! Home / N55. Posts. Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! Upstate Performance and Automotive Repair. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. Bringing the BMW community together. Do you have any videos on youtube? We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. 1. Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. Its not worth it at all. There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it, I don't have much knowledge to help you. I have a full e92 335 missing motor and box if you need parts. Mind you once you are done you will probably need preventative replacement parts on the engine that you have sourced second hand and that's several k more to bring it to 'new' condition. Provided you can get traction, it would chomp a lot of cars. JavaScript is disabled. A 335i is more than just the engine. 2023 X3 M40i | 2018 M3 Comp - Sold | 2017 340i - Sold | 2014 328i - Sold, I'd love to have the f8x chassis with s58 and dct and maybe g8x suspension. The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. A twin scroll turbocharger increases efficiency thereby decreasing turbo spool time, increasing power, and allows the cylinders to run cooler. Tags 340i downpipe jb4 mod turbo. 5. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! Jun 25, 2022 Hi. From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. 1. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Can pwg parts be swapped over to ewg engine, Cts turbo xdrive lowering spring set **new product**, New here! Very interested in seeing more info on this build. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. I haven't found any definitive answers for this question but how interchangeable are the N55s from different years and chassis, so I was hoping the wisdom of the forum could illuminate what would work with what. s65b40 or s85b50 are the most popular engine. This would be a very cool swap but doesn't seem worth it at all. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. That doesn't sound right. Still saving up for the car itself. 1 Reply More posts you may like Press J to jump to the feed. Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. I'm not dead set on an E90, I'm dead set on a E92, E90 - has 4 doors E92 - has 2 doors E93 - convertible. With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. Can I swap to an S58? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Push the connector into the new socket housing as far as you can with your fingers. A lot of differences. I had been thinking about swap since October, but made it in March. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. M4. New Member. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. 4. Are you saying that the cylinder walls are bare aluminum? Theyre infamous for this. A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. You have to run Meth to break 400whp, correct? Wow Awesome write up! VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Held rain or shine. I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Except the M2 is actually a very nice looking car. Poor choice for a race car ??? I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. Mine was a 6-speed. Do you know if there's any chasis differences when it comes to the 335i and 328i? Jump to Latest Follow . B58 swap out questions. Just buy an M240i 6MT if you want a B58 in the sportiest manual chassis it came in. Appreciate 0 Quote Have you noticed any difference in torque delivery because of the flywheel change? 4. Youll probably beat any b58 any day of the week. Refreshments available. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. But I could be talking out my ass so please correct me if I'm wrong. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. M4. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. If you like the e9x, but an n54 version thats been a victim of rod bearing failure or turbos that need replacing. (1 review) Write a Review. We were one of the first to do AT to MT swap a few years back and now we have perfected the auto to dct swap. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability the new b58 engine is more lighter, it is a straight six engine, the torque are better than s65. i saw a lot of e46 engine swap on internet. Cannot found anything on the web. It looks like the one you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs. Do all of those fixes for 4k and drive the crap out of it. I am Grisha from Rostov, Russia. Both options are cheaper and work better than what you're asking. CALL A PRODUCT EXPERT NOW AT 602-437-2101 Install Effort $2,449.99 Wastegate Flange Selection Dual 44mm Wastegate Flanges + $2,599.99 bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. That sounds like a very very very complicated swap if you're trying to run it off of the factory systems. LOVED it right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it. From $650 View. Way cheaper and easier to just buy a 335i, debage it and slap a 320i badge on. Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 07-26-2020, 12:19 AM #1: hon2bmw . Ordinary person who buys bit by bit first either through dealer or outsourcing was something like $15k plus more like $20k. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. I would love for it to be true, n54 engine prices would come down making it a delicious engine swap candidate like RB's and JZ's. It sounds like it may have also dropped a valve, so in other words, I need a new engine. Good point. [prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: xen-devel Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Booting signed xen.efi through shim From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas tklengyel ! A B58 with a DCT is what I always wanted the M2 to be. I have a 2011 E90 335i that just spun a rod bearing. It is not financially viable. Hamburg, PA. Hamburg Automotive Swap Meet & Car Corral, Hamburg Field House, 127 S. Fourth St. (rear), Hamburg, PA. Held 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Over 100 indoor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces plus car corral. There's really no reason to put a B58 in an E9X car. Vader Solution. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. Funny that I should stumble on this thread . I have a E46 Coupe race car currently with a M54 3.0 Motor. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. On an e90, Everything is dearer. Jump to Latest Follow . N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. But I support this swap 10000%. I'm not a big fan of E90's. Contact: Lester Manwiller - 610-823-4656; hamburgswapmeet@ontelaunneeaaca.com. Also, apart from a couple of crappy attachments in the N54 that can fail, the N54 isn't an engine that needs to be swapped with anything. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. A friend of mine I chat with down at rk tunes sent this screenshot to me after it was sent to him. Items for everyone including white elephants. Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 - 2018. The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. A. Autoputzer 160 Replies. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. Buy it. Um how to say if your goal is to make the 335 engine work in 320 body shell, then you can definitely do it. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. 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